| Pricing
for Risk
December 17, 2003
10:00 a.m. Central Time
| Participants: |
Novian Junus (Leader), Andy Chua, Harold
Dershowitz, Ted Steven, Guarav Upadhya, Julie Young (SOA) |
Update from
Andy
Andy went over the information on the e-mail that he sent to the group.
He went over a spreadsheet and a powerpoint presentation. In regards to
the specialty guide we need to talk about how much time we have and determine
how much detail that we want to go into. For example, it took the ALM
Specialty Guide people one year to go into the detail that they did. The
ALM specialty guide is different from most. In most cases they just give
literature references. They do give good definitions. They haven’t
provided any research. The definitions are very useful. There are two
approaches that we can take: we can have the research done and provided
for us or the second approach is to point out important considerations.
This group has decided to develop our specialty guide using the second
approach.
Next steps
and identify volunteers
We will take the work that Dave and Andy did, dissect it and re-organize
it and have a discussion on it.
ACTION
ITEM: (All) Review the work that has been done. Give suggestions
in a few sentences to the list serve on what phase 1 will look like.
Comment on how much detail we should go into on a particular subject,
.e.g. risk. Comments are due by January 15 to the list serve.
ACTION
ITEM: Harold volunteered to collate the comments and suggestions,
summarize them, and then distribute to the list serve.
Should we recruit
other people? Yes, but we have to define the project first.
Wording of
objectives for the subgroup
Proposed Objective
Develop a specialty
guide that:
- Identifies the
common profit measures used in the insurance industry and the common
methods for reflecting risk
- Provides actuaries
with information on those risks that have not been traditionally considered
in their pricing models
- Include recommended
readings that provide indications of how to price each of the risks
and how they should be incorporated directly and interactively or independently
with traditional actuarial risk models
- May include design
modifications to products to eliminate/reduce risk in the first place,
and/or hedging strategies and their cost to mitigate identified risks
- Identifies gaps
in current literature and practice with regards to pricing for risk.
ACTION
ITEM: (All) Look at the proposed objectives and send Novian
comments by January 15. Novian will finalize it and send it out before
our next call on January 29.
Next call
The next call will be on January 29 at 10:00 a.m. Central Time.
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Update
from Andy
Andy went over the information on the e-mail that he sent to the group.
He went over a spreadsheet and a powerpoint presentation. In regards to
the specialty guide we need to talk about how much time we have and determine
how much detail that we want to go into. For example, it took the ALM
Specialty Guide people one year to go into the detail that they did. The
ALM specialty guide is different from most. In most cases they just give
literature references. They do give good definitions. They haven’t
provided any research. The definitions are very useful. There are two
approaches that we can take: we can have the research done and provided
for us or the second approach is to point out important considerations.
This group has decided to develop our specialty guide using the second
approach.
Next steps
and identify volunteers
We will take the work that Dave and Andy did, dissect it and re-organize
it and have a discussion on it.
ACTION
ITEM: (All) Review the work that has been done. Give suggestions
in a few sentences to the list serve on what phase 1 will look like.
Comment on how much detail we should go into on a particular subject,
.e.g. risk. Comments are due by January 15 to the list serve.
ACTION
ITEM: Harold volunteered to collate the comments and suggestions,
summarize them, and then distribute to the list serve.
Should we recruit
other people? Yes, but we have to define the project first.
Wording of
objectives for the subgroup
Proposed Objective
Develop a specialty
guide that:
- Identifies the
common profit measures used in the insurance industry and the common
methods for reflecting risk
- Provides actuaries
with information on those risks that have not been traditionally considered
in their pricing models
- Include recommended
readings that provide indications of how to price each of the risks
and how they should be incorporated directly and interactively or independently
with traditional actuarial risk models
- May include design
modifications to products to eliminate/reduce risk in the first place,
and/or hedging strategies and their cost to mitigate identified risks
- Identifies gaps
in current literature and practice with regards to pricing for risk.
ACTION
ITEM: (All) Look at the proposed objectives and send Novian
comments by January 15. Novian will finalize it and send it out before
our next call on January 29.
Next call
The next call will be on January 29 at 10:00 a.m. Central Time.
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